Former federal prosecutor Glenn Kirschner predicted Friday that Mark Meadows, the former White House chief of staff, will “betray” the former president to Justice Department investigators as part of the investigation through Jan. 6, 2021.
UKTN reported Thursday that Trump had been told by advisers to “sever contact” with Meadows, who is seen by some legal analysts as a potential key witness against the former president. The news organization also reported that Trump’s legal team is “in direct communication with Justice Department officials” in connection with the Jan. 6 investigation.
Kirschner, who now works as a legal analyst for MSNBC and NBC News and has called for the Trump indictment, quoted this UKTN reporting in a video. shared on YouTube and Twitter on Friday. He said the former president’s lawyers who spoke to the Justice Department were a “last-ditch effort” to avoid charges. The legal expert also pointed to reporting by rolling stone that said Trump’s legal team is trying to place the blame for alleged criminal behavior on “fall guys.”
“Who’s one of the boys from the marquee?” Kirschner asked. “Mark Meadows.”
“And do you really think Mark Meadows will just sit still and take on Donald Trump’s fall? Maybe just go under the bus voluntarily? No,” the attorney added. “He’s going to cut his losses. He’s going to cooperate. He’s going to turn around. He’s going to turn over the state evidence. He’s going to betray Trump. He’s going to betray.”
News week contacted Trump’s press office for comment.
The ex-president says he did nothing wrong on Jan. 6 or in his attempt to undo President Joe Biden’s election gains. Trump also continues to say that the elections have been “manipulated” or “stolen” from him. He describes all investigations aimed at him and his allies as part of a partisan “witch hunt.”
Despite Trump’s claims, there is no evidence that the 2020 election was fraudulent. Rather, dozens of legal challenges brought by the former president and his allies failed in state and federal courts. Meanwhile, audits and recounts consistently confirmed Biden’s win.
Top Trump administration officials and prominent Republicans have repeatedly said there is no evidence the election was stolen. Former Attorney General William Barr, widely regarded as one of Trump’s most loyal cabinet members, called allegations of widespread voter fraud “bullsh*t.”
Whether Trump will get an indictment from the Justice Department remains to be seen. Attorney General Merrick Garland has publicly silenced the investigation. At the same time, Garland has said no one is off limits in the investigation.
“No one is above the law in this country. I can’t say it more clearly than that,” he said in July. His comment came in response to a question about whether the Justice Department would hypothetically indict a former president.
Indicting a former president would be an unprecedented move in the United States, as no former head of state has ever been charged with a crime. While some analysts have warned of the ramifications of such a move, Kirschner previously warned that the ramifications of not taking such a move would be worse.
“It’s time for the Justice Department, it’s time for our federal government to take the first legal journey and hold a criminal former president accountable for his crimes,” Kirschner said.
The former federal prosecutor argued that if Trump is not prosecuted, it would be like giving the former president “a pass.” He also said it would be a pass for “everything from obstructing official proceedings to and possibly including treason.”
“That’s the unmistakable signal to any prospective presidential candidates or presidents who want to hold onto power after they lose the election that they have DOJ permission to do everything Donald Trump did to either gain or keep power.” Kirschner said. “And I don’t think our nation can survive that again.”
In a commentary to UKTN News on Friday, Barr ruled that evidence against Trump is “building” in the Justice Department’s Jan. 6 investigation.
“I’m sure they’re getting more and more into it,” Trump’s former administration official said. “So I think what Merrick Garland is trying to do here is try to say, ‘Hey look, I’m looking hard at this, and if we find a crime, we’ll prosecute it.'”